OCTOBER 18, 2011


THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING (Pay as You Go/Finance Workshop) of the City of Port Orange was called to order by Mayor Allen Green at 5:31 p.m.


Pledge of Allegiance


Silent Invocation


Roll Call: Present: Councilman Bob Ford

Councilman Donald Burnette

Councilman Bob Pohlmann

Vice Mayor Dennis Kennedy

Mayor Allen Green


Also Present: Kenneth W. Parker, City Manager

Margaret T. Roberts, City Attorney

Robin Fenwick, Deputy City Clerk



Garrett Babiez introduced himself from Troop 446. He is present to earn a merit badge on his way to Eagle. Mayor Green invited Garrett to sit with the Council for the meeting.


Mr. Parker explained the purpose of the meeting.


John Shelley, Finance Director, gave a history of the water/sewer rates (last change was Oct. 2006), and the plan for the meeting. Various Capital Funding Methods were discussed. Mr. Parker advised Council that they prioritize projects each year. The projects showing unfunded may become funded during the prioritizing process. Mr. Shelley continued to discuss the methods. Vice Mayor Kennedy reminded Council that maintenance must still be done to infrastructure that is in place now. He believes that the pay as you go method would require strict policies on what can and can't be done with the money in future years. Councilman Pohlmann believes main projects should be considered with the pay as you go method but yearly projects (smaller R&R projects) should be done as they are now. Mr. Parker reminded Council that the neighborhoods are getting old and several will be in need of repairs at the same time. Regulatory changes will also dictate priorities. Councilman Ford would not agree to raising rates other than a small 1, 2, 3% because it would be too hard on the citizens. Vice Mayor Kennedy believes the modified approach gets the City in a better position than the current system. Pay as you go doesn't look good with a +/- 13% in year one. Councilman Burnette wants to implement a program that makes sense, is fair to citizens, and takes care of the City. Councilman Ford doesn't like debt, but doesn't want to hit the taxpayers too heavily either. He believes a moderate increase is going to be needed to maintain the City infrastructure. Mayor Green believes it is the Council's responsibility to fund portions of necessary projects for the future, without current taxpayers paying for everything. Mr. Parker explained the clean water act and the lawsuit going on relating to the Environmental Agency.


Garrett Babiez asked what the city spends money on during a fiscal year. Mayor Green explained several areas that the City has to think about and fund.


Mr. Shelley said thank you to Roger Smith, Mike Ulrich, Brad Blais, and Lisa Pallente for their work on the meeting documents.






Mayor Allen Green





Kenneth W. Parker, City Manager